Refused to commit on mig 29 radar supply.

On the strategic order that was executed - it seems it was a short-term order executed quickly. Do you expect to participate in more such orders? Will you bid in Radar, EW, or other segments? It is margin dilutive but revenue accretive.

See, I can't discuss much on the strategic order. That's why it's called a strategic order. But we took this contract because there is a large potential for multiple such contracts. What we need to say from our side is that the product has been executed very well. Customers are happy on the performance of the product. And there are two things to take away from this product. One is there is a future potential. I can't explain the potential at the present moment due to the nature of the contract. And -- but there is a future potential. Point two, this is the first time the company has taken such a large contract, which involves power systems, building, construction, mechanical systems, design of something like 140 tons of material as a payload, which can be moved. This is a whole -- it's a very complex mechanical -- electromechanical system. Electronics also is state-of-the-art world-class. As regards future such contracts, similar contracts, et cetera, obviously, when something happens when we believe it is strategic and gives a technology perspective as well as revenue growth and bottom line future growth, we will obviously participate, but it's a competitive environment. We may or may not be able to get all these contracts. But yes, Data Patterns wants to grow in this line of business, complete systems. So we are working both on the radars and EW and other areas of avionics as well. So we do take up strategic contracts in all areas of applications, not necessarily only the radars.

On the consortium for AMCA with BEML and Bharat Forge - what is the rationale for participating with these 2 partners? What is your scope and the share you will get out of total value of AMCA?

As you said, it's a bit too early. It's an RFI response. And after RFI shortlisting takes place, an RFP happens and then the contract goes to somebody. It is only one company which gets the contract. So it's very early for me to comment on it. But why are we in this is because Bharat Forge is a large Indian company. There's a lot of capability building complete systems and well-positioned for growth. And they are also similar to us in the sense they do want to do everything in India. So that makes us -- in terms of alignment, it is very good. Second area is that our focus has been in avionics, and we do state-of-the-art avionics in the country. As a matter of fact, the more -- what we do, nobody else in India does in terms of avionics range. So we have the cockpit solutions. We have radars, we have electronic warfare. We have a whole lot of other systems which can go into any Fighter aircraft. So we can add value in all of them. And there's also electronic integration, which is necessary as part of this. Exactly what role what each one would play will have to be decided based on how the overall thing pans out. But I think it's a good fit.

DRDO recently came out with an RFI for shared-aperture antennas merging radars, EWs and communications. How is Data Patterns going ahead with that? Also on jammer pods for the Super Sukhoi - is it possible by Data Patterns?

Regarding first one, RFI, I'm not clear exactly which one you're referring to. What is shared-aperture radar I'm not very clear about that. I'm not aware of particular requirement you are talking. So I'm not able to comment on it. As regard the jammer pod, yes, we have developed the pod for the Super Sukhoi and that testing is happening in-house. We've already offered this to Air Force. The Air Force team also addressing this and understanding what we've done. So the process is on at the present moment. That's all I can say. I don't know what else you want me to say because I think we need requirement specification. So pod is developed. We will use QIP funds and develop the system. It's just not the pod, but also the complete EW suite for the Super Sukhoi. Pod is part of it. So yes, it is under evaluation and further development along with reps from Air Force.

On news about radars for MiG-29 - are you going to be supplying some of it?

See, these are all -- a lot of things comes in the newspaper and article comes. I can't comment on so many articles that's coming. Where the origination of the article, I really don't know. We have developed our own radars for -- which can fit into MiG-29 as well as Su-30 and such similar fighter aircrafts. We have a program running internally funded, and we are building the products. These are all in advanced stage of development. But how it will pan out, where it really go is really we can't comment on it because there's a lot of -- this is based on Air Force and Navy requirements.

How are the order wins expected in H2 and beyond? Any large or high-value platform expected since guidance is INR1,000 crores in H2 and INR2,000 to INR3,000 crores in 18 to 24 months?

I don't want to talk about specific future contracts on an open line. I should say, yes, there are more orders expected as you go along in H2. And that is why the guidance of what has been given. We expect some more contracts to happen in the next 3 to 4 months' time. That has to happen. And regarding the rest of the year -- beyond that, I think at the present moment, I don't want to comment. We will consolidate for the year now and understand what the order book is going to be like next year, what new pipeline we are looking at next year. And then that will come on the earnings call probably post this year. We will give you some guidance. But we don't have any particular guidance beyond that at the present moment.

What percentage of INR667 crores of receivables would be realized in H2? Do I increase my revenue guidance from INR850 crores to INR1,000 crores this year and margins close to 40%? Was the strategic INR180 crore contract margin sub-20%?

Okay. The exact percentage of collectibles, I really don't have an answer off the top. A large portion of the collectibles will be collected in the next H2 is what we think, whatever is collectible. Exact numbers, I don't know we want to give, but then yes, most of it will be collected during H2. That is to answer question one. Question two, we remain with the guidance given earlier. I don't want to -- obviously, there will be slightly upward movement on the revenue guidance because there is this contract which is executed. But on the bottom line guidance, we remain whatever we've told earlier. We don't want to modify at the present moment. And regarding exactly what we got in this contract, we are not in a liberty to say exact margin and all that in an open call. So you would understand that it is not practical for me to say this.

Disclosures show INR200 crores of execution for DRDO this quarter - is it safe to assume 75% would be towards this large order? Also, on the order book of INR640 crores, could you mention three or five large orders priced in this and their values?

I don't have the list of orders on hand with me to answer this. And I don't know whether specific contract price I want to really share it. We normally don't put it on website all that because of this reason that we calculate, and we don't do this week to week when the order comes, we don't push it. We don't share such information. The large contracts, I mentioned also, there's some large contract from BrahMos and one from ECIL. I also mentioned that in the part of the opening remarks itself. So then there are a number of other contracts which we have and some more are expected. We have quoted, negotiations will happen. Some more contracts are also expected in the next 3 to 4 months' time.

On the disclosed INR550 crores of orders negotiated but not confirmed - should we expect these to get confirmed in coming month or 2? With these confirming, total order inflows would stand at INR900 crores. Are we well poised to cross INR1,500 crore mark for FY26?

No. We expect in the next 2, 3 months, during the rest of the year, we should have -- they sometimes takes time. And so the contract once we negotiate it takes a few months or sometimes 2 months. So there are MOD contracts which is taking some time. Some -- for some or other reason, it's getting postponed. So we expect, yes, in the next 2, 3 months, we should get the contracts. Yes, we have -- we expect more than that contracts in the next few months.

On AMCA - if the final contract goes to the L&T-BEL consortium, is there a probability that the avionics portion may flow back to Data Patterns? And what is the broad timeline for AMCA program?

We believe -- we hope so. We don't know because the initial RFP is still unpublished. So until we know the RFP and what really comes, it's only RFI now. So I can't comment on what is really planned on delivery in the first 5 prototypes, what avionics is planned and how they are asking us to see the so-called partners or RFI responses to buy and integrate it. It is all not visible at the present. I even don't know whether they are planning, what they're planning. The RFP is not out, so we do not know. I believe they want to place the contracts early. It's in less than a year, maybe 6 months is what they're saying. So we need to wait and watch how the process goes.

On the strategic contract - if we normalize this, if we get repeated orders within this category, what would be the actual normalized margins for this type of strategic contract if taken at a regular rate?

This has to be negotiated with the customer. I think you had asked that question to him, not me. As and when the requirement comes, the inquiry comes, we quote and the negotiation happens. So it's a very -- the question today is not answerable by any of us. It will be happened only when it really happens. So we believe we stand a chance because the contract size will be larger. And so maybe we should be able to get a reasonable margin. But exactly what it is, I have no idea at the present moment.