Throughline · holding view Deep analysis Q2 FY24
NESTLEIND Nestle India Ltd · FMCG Q2 FY24 · concall
Pattern: royalty agreement renewal direction

Narrative arc shifted from inflation-defense + new-category launches (Purina, Gerber) in Q1FY23 to RURBAN distribution build-out + Sanand factory in Q3FY23/Q2FY24 to a slowdown-and-succession quart…

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Latika · deflection

Royalty agreement up for review - timeline and parent's approach?

Look, at the moment, I think we are still in, it's still in front of the board of Nestle India in terms of discussing this, preparing because it's still, it's tenable till June next year, till June 2024. So, there is still a bit of time, but I think we are very conscious of the fact that brands, technology and operational excellence are what Nestle brings to the table. And I think all these three would be evaluated fairly squarely before any decision is taken, but to clarify to you Latika as of now no decision has been taken.

Other Q&A (18)
Abneesh Roy · Edelweiss

Have you lost volume share in noodles/coffee to local/regional players given downtrading?

Coffee: high bean prices limit local players. Maggi Masala-e-Magic - some entrants but limited traction. Noodles: small pack price hikes saw fringe entry; RURBAN package and Rs.10 price point tailoring is bringing volumes back. Overall responding fast enough to mitigate losses.

Abneesh Roy · Edelweiss

8 years back vs now - is INR 2/5/10 coinage issue under control? Maggi small pack price 5->7->10. Why isn't UPI helping vacate popular price points given grammage impacts?

Cash still predominant in retail trade. Price point still important - Nestle portfolio: ~1/3 PPP, 15-20% premium, rest mainstream. Two forces - premiumization and downtrading. INR 5/10 still fraught with risk for trade-offs.

Harith · Investec

With green coffee and cocoa inflation - end of price action cycle? Or more pricing needed given 2 quarters gross margin step-up?

Pricing is last option. Hope towards end of price cycle on coffee unless dramatic. Coffee bean prices very much on the uptick. Cocoa: secular trend up. Intention is to avoid pricing as much as possible. 'It is a wish Harith at the moment. I feel difficult to predict.'

Harith · Investec

Material step up in innovation next 12-18 months vs last 3 years?

Relatively speaking, step-up. COVID times muted innovation - now being unleashed. 10 projects most powerful for market. Calibrated - building brand equity, gastric capacity considerations, RURBAN drive priorities. Will see uptake for sure.

Manoj Menon · ICICI Securities

Of 7% volume growth - how much from sales vector? Headroom for 3-4 year medium-term view?

At least 3% (maybe 3.5-4%) of 7% volume growth attributable to sales vector + digitization + analytics. Continues to be area of thrust. Going forward best-case as strong, worst-case slightly lower but still significant as we sweat the assets.

Manoj Menon · ICICI Securities

Pet care ramp-up plans medium term? Is 2023 Nestle different on M&A vs 10-20 years back?

M&A continues to be area of interest - eyes/ears open on fit, value-add, valuations. Pet care integration with Nestle India complete. Expanding distribution scope and synergies. 'Some of the early leads on the cat food segment is very positive.'

Siddharth Dhand · Goodwill

Any thoughts on entering NESPRESSO via Nestle India?

NESPRESSO is business of interest. Few regulatory and duty-related issues on import of pods/capsules need to be navigated. Once cleared, decision on direct involvement of Nestle India. Pet care continues to be area of serious interest.

Vivek Maheshwari · Jefferies

$40B in $800B - growth should be much higher; case for disruptive launch like PepsiCo Sting (INR 120 -> INR 20 led to scale)?

Philosophy is balance between growth and profitability - won't launch deeply dilutive products without distinct competitive advantage. Empty calorie growth not philosophy. Building infrastructure for higher growth - on categories like nutrition or health science where volume small but values/impacts significant.

Vivek Maheshwari · Jefferies

Trust important for Gen Z (59%) - 41% would go for non-trustworthy brands - does that worry you?

Two meanings of trust in the research - sticky vs experimental. No company is owed market share. 41% should keep us awake - have we got right consumer proposition, compelling experience, value delivery to justify market shares? Yesterday's hero is today's zero.

Ajay · Anand Rathi Securities

Premium products only ~10% - definition of premium?

Rigorous definition: PPP is 10-20% below mainstream; premium is 30-40% above mainstream. KITKAT in normal parlance considered premium but Nestle classifies as mainstream. Premium growth 2-2.5x rest of organization including small towns.

Sheela Rathi ·

% portfolio impacted by price hikes last year and which categories may not require rollback?

About half the portfolio touched in pricing. Don't see imminent rollback - while inflation came down, commodity prices still at high level. Differences purely marginal for distinct rollback. Unlike petroleum-based ingredients where decline was sharp.

Sheela Rathi ·

Media spend up 1.3x but ad spend ~4% vs pre-pandemic 6% - risking market share via brand equity?

Not risking equity - spending more efficiently and effectively. Digital spends up significantly. Digital share varies 20% to 60-70% by brand.

Sheela Rathi ·

Capex being built - should we imagine much higher growth trajectory? Most exciting categories?

Definition of much-much different. Capacities created to enable higher growth. Volume growth ambition - 'definitely comparable, if not better than what we have got in the past.'

Sheela Rathi ·

Distribution reach 5.2m - portfolio gaps? Where are opportunities?

All categories offer opportunities - distribution depends on repeat purchase and activation. Number of MAGGI noodle outlets won't equal coffee outlets. Headroom across all brands.

Percy ·

June quarter gross margin +200 bps - raw material softening, price hikes, or other?

Combination of raw material softening and better realization.

Arnab · Goldman Sachs

Innovations like Ceregrow, Milo, Nestleplus, Gerber - meeting the bar of moving the needle (1-2% of sales)?

Some show stronger promise - noodles initiatives, chocolates, coffee getting traction; nutrition takes time. Days of seeking another MAGGI noodles is a mirage. Smaller number of strong opportunities. Long-term ambition: innovation to 10% of sales (not next year - takes time).

Arnab · Goldman Sachs

Margin improvement not stated objective - keeping margins stable, focus on growth - can it change?

Broad approach growth with sustained profitability does not dramatically change. Within category could look at parts of portfolio with short-medium term sacrifice. Won't take 30% growth at 15% EBIT vs current 23-24%.

Avi Mehta · Macquarie

Niche opportunities vs distribution constraint dichotomy - smaller opportunities require new launches but bandwidth limited?

Two levels: gastric capacity for complexity (procurement, manufacturing, sourcing); geo-targeting and sharp-shooting on route to market for niche regional opportunities. Portfolio not dramatically different by geography - few variants, some SKUs in/out. Manufacturing flexibility with 10 factories + 10 co-manufacturers; sizing opportunities is the challenge.

Prepared remarks (3 blocks)
'Growing together consistently today and tomorrow.' Five-year journey from MAGGI crisis (2015) to current. India context: <strong>$800 billion</strong> total F&B, $100 billion packaged, $40 billion branded packaged - 1:20 headroom. 487 million addressable striving/middle class growing to ~700 million by 2030. 1.2 billion mobile users, 20GB/capita data, 470 million Gen Z. Per capita packaged food 4.2x lower than China, 3.3x lower than Philippines. 5 P's framework: purpose, people, planet, partnerships, performance. 110 years in India, 8000+ employees, 194,000+ shareholders, 10th factory at Odisha (Rs.800-900 crores being deployed). 12 billion NESCAFE cups, 5 billion noodle serves, 3.3 billion KitKat fingers, 2.2 billion Munch fingers, 29 million Milkmaid tins, 700 One Nestle kiosks. Reaches 200 million of 300 million households. 125 new products launched in last seven years (innovation contributes ~6%). 10 new important projects in pipeline. Last 5 years 7% volume CAGR; reported 5-year value CAGR 11.3%. Three-year town-class CAGR: mega 15.4%, metro 21%, TC1 10.2%, TC2-6 11.2%, rural 26.6%. Distribution: 5.2 million outlets (1.6 direct + 3.6 indirect) up from 4 million in 2016. RURBAN: ambition 120,000 villages >2000 pop by 2024; covering 108,000 now; total villages 191,000.
Distribution touchpoints from 8,500 to 18,000 (>2x); salesmen 2,200 to 3,100. Q2FY24 nine-month domestic sales growth 15.1%. Product groups Q2FY24: Milk Products & Nutrition +15.3%, Prepared Dishes & Cooking Aids +10.7%, Out of Home +30%, Confectionery +21%, Powdered & Liquid Beverages +18.6% (coffee). E-commerce ~20% growth; 50% of e-commerce now quick commerce. Innovation 6% of sales. Operating profit margin 19.7% to 21.4% (+170 bps). Net profit +10.4% YoY. Capex: 2020-2023 INR 2,600 crores (Rs.2,480 cr through Sep 2023); 2023-2025 INR 5,000 crores committed (Rs.900-1,000 cr Odisha). Sustainable manufacturing 15-year: GHG -52%, water -51%, wastewater -38%, energy -36%. SHARK 10,000+ projects since 2011 saving INR 1.5-2 billion/year (1-1.5% of sales). Commodity inflation: milk +60% since 2018, SMP +72%, edible oils +89%, green coffee unstable, packaging stable, wheat 7% MSP escalation.
Nine months 2023 domestic sales growth <strong>15.1%</strong> (vs 15% nine months 2022). 5-year value CAGR 11.3%. Volume CAGR 2018-2022 ~7%. Q2FY24 product group growth: M&N +15.3%, PDCA +10.7%, OOH +30%, Confectionery +21%, PLB +18.6%. Innovation contribution ~6% of sales. Operating profit margin 19.7% -> 21.4% (+170 bps). Net profit growth ~10.4%. Capex 2020-2023: INR 2,600 cr (~Rs.2,480 cr deployed through Sept 2023); 2023-2025: INR 5,000 cr committed. Investments: Rs.900-1,000 cr in Odisha factory. Market cap $1B (2001) -> $26B (Sept 2023); 43.6x return vs 20x benchmark over 20 years. SHARK savings 1-1.5% / Rs.1.5-2 billion per year. ROE 108%.
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